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Sylvia Oneal honestly they are pretty good. i sized up one size and im glad i did. im an odd shape to fit. my biggest problem is that i cant cinch the waist in more. it needs another button on each side. if i had gotten a size smaller i dont think my back side would have fit. but they sit high enough that the waist doesnt fit. and the hips sit pretty wide. but all in all i like them. im gonna have to tweak them a bit.